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Savile Rogue Scarf Competition Results 24/11/2014

Posted by Matt Rowson in Nonsense.
6 comments

Many thanks to all those who entered our competition to win a Savile Rogue Watford scarf.   The objective was to name a Watford player past or present who had played competitively for each of the clubs in the Premier League and each of the other clubs in the Championship.  Beyond that, the winning entry would be the one whose 43 named players made the fewest number of Southern League, Football League and Premier League appearances for Watford between them.  (One for the anoraks, I appreciate.  I’ll try to come up with a more inclusive comp if we get this gig again….)

No player’s name could be used against more than one club, and each player used must have appeared in at least one competitive game both for Watford and for the team in question.

24 entries were received, of which 18 successfully put a name to each of the 43 slots.  Of these, the most winning entry in terms of Watford appearances was again received from Anders Flatas whose nominations made only 47 league starts for the club between them;  Anders defends his title, and having declined a scarf last year on the basis of no UK address is more than entitled to this year’s prize if we can navigate that obstacle… I’ll be in touch, sir. Commiserations to Paul Baxter, an honorable second for the second year running, and third place David Moore who beat traditional comp heavyweight Jem Whiteley into fourth.

After much fiddling around with spreadsheets I managed to beat Anders’ score by two appearances, but must confess to having employed the combined expertise of the entries, the composition of which is also detailed below, rather than doing the legwork on my own (are you mad?).  However this is only one possible avenue to this score… the insertion of Cliff Powell for Gary Plumley at Cardiff, for example, being one equivalent variant.

The most frequent error in entries was duplication… Scott Loach and Nigel Jemson just two names to have been allocated to two clubs simultaneously by entrants.

Other errors can loosely be categorised as either:

  • Naming a player against a team for whom he never played competitively
  • Leaving a team blank
  • In very few cases, putting a player down with no association with the club in question.

Been as generous as I can be re spelling…  happy to discuss or explain any queries, but please be polite… 🙂

So for those with an insatiable appetite for such data, enjoy:

Full Results Table

Club-by-Club Summary

Full Club-by-Club Listing

Player List in order of Most Nominations plus Detail!

Alphabetical player listing (for confirming your score!)

Note that both the Club-by-Club summary and the full Club listing are a little distorted by the occasions on which a player was nominated next to two clubs – since only valid entries are counted, the discarded lower entry in the team list is arbitrarily missing.

You can get a 10% discount off any Savile Rogue order using the HAPPY14 discount code.

That is all..

Competition: Win a Cashmere Watford scarf from Savile Rogue 07/11/2014

Posted by Matt Rowson in Nonsense.
35 comments

Once again, Savile Rogue have very kindly offered BHaPPY readers the chance to win one of the world’s finest cashmere football scarves in Watford colours.

Savile Rogue scarves (it says here…) give a nod to football terraces of yesteryear, shunning in-your-face logos and cheap nylon in favour of a traditional bar design and the comfort, quality and warmth of top grade wool.

Watford scarf 2Watford scarf 3To get your hands on the “faithful” version of the Watford scarf, here’s the deal…

Listed below the are the names of all the (other) clubs in the top two divisions in England.

You need to copy and paste these lists into the comments column below, and next to each enter the name of a Watford player past or present who has also turned out for the team in question in at least one competitive match.

  • No player can be used more than once
  • The winner is the entrant who fills the most slots – in the event of a tie, the winner will be the entrant whose listed players have STARTED THE FEWEST GAMES in Premier League, Football League or Southern League games for Watford (prior to the game with Derby County on Nov 22nd).  If there is still a tie, the earlier entrant wins.
  • Please enter player names in the format  J.Barnes .
  • Loans at Watford or at other club are fine, as long as the players concerned featured in at least one competitive game for each.

Entries close at midnight on  Saturday November 22nd.

Note that Savile Rogue are only able to dispatch the prize to a UK address.

Entries will not be published until the closing date.  Note that your own entry may appear automatically below the post on submission but this will not be generally viewable.

That is all.

PREMIER LEAGUE

Arsenal

Villa

Burnley

Chelsea

Palace

Everton

Hull

Leicester

Liverpool

ManCity

ManU

Newcastle

QPR

Southampton

Stoke

Sunderland

Swansea

Tottenham

WBA

WestHam

CHAMPIONSHIP

Birmingham

Blackburn

Blackpool

Bolton

Bournemouth

Brentford

Brighton

Cardiff

Charlton

Derby

Fulham

Huddersfield

Ipswich

Leeds

Middlesbrough

Millwall

Norwich

NForest

Reading

Rotherham

SheffWed

Wigan

Wolves

Savile Rogue Scarf Competition Results 22/12/2013

Posted by Matt Rowson in Nonsense.
2 comments

Many thanks to all those who entered our competition to win a Savile Rogue Watford scarf.   The objective was to name a Watford player past or present who had played for each of the clubs in the Premier League and each of the other clubs in the Championship.  Beyond that, the winning entry would be the one whose 43 named players had scored the largest number of Southern League, Football League and Premier League goals for Watford between them.

No player’s name could be used against more than one club, and each player used must have appeared in at least one competitive game both for Watford and for the team in question.

35 entries were received, of which 16 successfully put a name to each of the 43 slots.  Of these, the most prolific entry in terms of Watford goals was received from Anders Flatas whose nominations racked up 1962 goals between them;  Anders wins the scarf… I’ll be in touch, sir. Commiserations to Paul Baxter, an honorable second, and third place Jem Whiteley, last year’s winner, who put in another strong showing.

See below for a link to the full results table. Luther (WBA or Bournemouth), Ross (Palace) and Cliff (Arsenal or Charlton given that Ross takes Palace) should have been straight in, and then it was a matter of rotating Wilko, Danny Graham, Marlon, Heidar, Mooney, Tommy Smith and the others in many different permutations.

After much fiddling around with spreadsheets I didn’t take any pleasure at all in beating Anders’ score by one goal, the composition of which is also detailed below.  However this is only one possible avenue to this score… the insertion of Tommy Jones for Wilf Rostron appears to be the critical non-rotational difference, although Anders could reasonably claim a moral victory by dint of including Wilf in his selection (with due respect to the late Mr.Jones).  Many congrats if you can improve on the optimum claimed… rest assured that I’m past caring.

The subtlest of errors in nominations was the naming of a player who was once signed, or had a trial with the club in question but never made the stipulated competitive appearance.  This invalidates nominations for Nathaniel Chalobah at Chelsea, Len Dunderdale at Sheffield WednesdayAlan Mayes at Q.P.R. and Stewart Scullion at Charlton Athletic.

Other errors can loosely be categorised as either:

  • Putting a player’s name against two clubs (the second of which, arbitrarily, is invalidated)
  • Leaving a team blank
  • In very few cases, putting a player down with no association with the club in question.

Been as generous as I can be re spelling…  happy to discuss or explain any queries, but please be polite… 🙂

So for those with an insatiable appetite for such data, enjoy:

Full Results Table

Club-by-Club Summary

Full Club-by-Club Listing

Player List in order of Most Nominations plus Detail!

Alphabetical player listing (for confirming your score!)

Note that both the Club-by-Club summary and the full Club listing are a little distorted by the occasions on which a player was nominated next to two clubs – since only valid entries are counted, the discarded lower entry in the team list is arbitrarily missing.

You will now be returned to your normal program…

Competition: Win a Cashmere Watford scarf from Savile Rogue 11/12/2013

Posted by Matt Rowson in Nonsense.
63 comments

Once again, Savile Rogue have very kindly offered BHaPPY readers the chance to win one of the world’s finest cashmere football scarves in Watford colours.

Savile Rogue scarves (it says here…) give a nod to football terraces of yesteryear, shunning in-your-face logos and cheap nylon in favour of a traditional bar design and the comfort, quality and warmth of top grade wool.

To get your hands on a Watford scarf, here’s the deal…

Listed below the are the names of all the (other) clubs in the top two divisions in England.

You need to copy and paste these lists into the comments column below, and next to each enter the name of a Watford player past or present who has also turned out for the team in question in at least one competitive match.

  • No player can be used more than once
  • The winner is the entrant who fills the most slots – in the event of a tie, the winner will be the entrant whose listed players have SCORED THE MOST GOALS in Premier League, Football League or Southern League games for Watford (prior to this Saturday’s game with Sheffield Wednesday).  If there is still a tie, the earlier entrant wins.
  • Please enter player names in the format  J.Barnes .
  • Loans at Watford or at other club are fine, as long as the players concerned featured in at least one competitive game for each.

Entries close at midnight on  Saturday December 21st.

Note that Savile Rogue are only able to dispatch the prize to a UK address.

Entries will not be published until the closing date.

That is all.

PREMIER LEAGUE

Arsenal

Villa

Cardiff

Chelsea

Palace

Everton

Fulham

Hull

Liverpool

ManCity

ManU

Newcastle

Norwich

Southampton

Stoke

Sunderland

Swansea

Tottenham

WBA

WestHam

CHAMPIONSHIP

Barnsley

Birmingham

Blackburn

Blackpool

Bolton

Bournemouth

Brighton

Burnley

Charlton

Derby

Doncaster

Huddersfield

Ipswich

Leeds

Leicester

Middlesbrough

Millwall

NForest

QPR

Reading

SheffWed

Wigan

Yeovil

Savile Rogue Scarf Comp Results 30/11/2012

Posted by Matt Rowson in Nonsense.
2 comments

Many thanks to all those who entered our competition to win a Savile Rogue Watford scarf.   The objective was to name a Watford player past or present who had played for each of the clubs in the Premier League and each of the other clubs in the Championship.  Beyond that, the winning entry would be the one whose 43 named players had started the largest number of Southern League, Football League and Premier League games for Watford between them.

No player’s name could be used against more than one club, and each player used must have appeared in at least one competitive game both for Watford and for the team in question.

62 entries were received, of which 37 successfully put a name to each of the 43 slots.  Of these, the most prolific entry in terms of Watford appearances was received from Jem Whiteley whose nominations racked up 8986 appearances between them;  Jem wins the scarf… good work Jem, if you could reply to this posting with your address details I’ll pass them on to Savile Rogue.

See below for a link to the full results table.  A prerequisite for a good score was remembering Luther Blissett’s brief loan at West Brom under Steve Perryman; kudos too to those who remembered Andy Hessenthaler spending an odd loan under Peter Taylor at Hull after he resigned as Gillingham’s player-manager, or David Holdsworth’s one league cup run out for Bolton.  Beyond that it was a matter of deciding where to most profitably slot the likes of Bobby Downes, Neil Cox, Tommy Smith and Tommy Mooney – many appearances for the Hornets, and with spells at many other candidate clubs besides.

The optimum score, I believe, was 9110, the composition of which is also detailed below.  However this is only one possible avenue to this score… the mathematical complexity of the problem is suggested by the fact that Jem’s entry and the Optimum version linked below contain the same names against Aston Villa, Huddersfield, Cardiff, Derby, Stoke and QPR… but in a completely different configuration.  Many congrats if you can improve on the optimum claimed… rest assured that I’m past caring.

The subtlest of errors in nominations was the naming of a player who was once signed, or had a trial with the club in question but never made the stipulated competitive appearance.  This invalidates nominations for Tommy Mooney at Aston Villa, Nathaniel Chalobah at ChelseaAlec Chamberlain at Everton, both Tommy Barnett and Danny Drinkwater at Manchester UnitedJason Drysdale at Newcastle United and both Andy Hessenthaler and, the most frequent error, Stewart Scullion at Charlton Athletic (thanks Trefor…).

Other errors can loosely be categorised as either:

  • Putting a player’s name against two clubs (the second of which, arbitrarily, is invalidated)
  • Leaving a team blank
  • In very few cases, putting a player down with no association with the club in question.

In one case Burnley had been deleted from the list altogether.  Was tempted to award bonus points for this, but decided that this was possibly against the spirit of the exercise.  I will publish all entries as comments to the previous post (if you submitted a revised entry your earlier post has been deleted).  Been as generous as I can be re spelling…  happy to discuss or explain any queries, but please be polite… 🙂

So for those with an insatiable appetite for such data, enjoy:

Full Results Table

Club-by-Club Summary

Full Club-by-Club Listing

Player List in order of Most Nominations plus Detail!

Alphabetical player listing (for confirming your score!)

Note that both the Club-by-Club summary and the full Club listing are a little distorted by the occasions on which a player was nominated next to two clubs – since only valid entries are counted, the discarded lower entry in the team list is arbitrarily missing.  Also, the club-by-club list only lists one name as the most popular pick, even in the event of a tie.  Sorry about that, could have sorted but need some kip…

That’s about it, except to confirm that Savile Rogue have specified a discount code for BHaPPY readers…. specifying the discount code HAPPY at the checkout will get you 10% of all purchases.  The Watford scarf in question can be found here.

You will now be returned to your normal program…

Competition: Win a Cashmere Watford scarf from Savile Rogue 23/11/2012

Posted by Matt Rowson in Nonsense.
82 comments

Once again, Savile Rogue have very kindly offered BHaPPY readers the chance to win one of the world’s finest cashmere football scarves in Watford colours.

Savile Rogue scarves (it says here…) give a nod to football terraces of yesteryear, shunning in-your-face logos and cheap nylon in favour of a traditional bar design and the comfort, quality and warmth of top grade wool.

To get your hands on a Watford scarf, here’s the deal…

Listed below the are the names of all the (other) clubs in the top two divisions in England.

You need to copy and paste these lists into the comments column below, and next to each enter the name of a Watford player past or present who has also turned out for the team in question in at least one competitive match.

  • No player can be used more than once
  • The winner is the entrant who fills the most slots – in the event of a tie, the winner will be the entrant whose listed players have started the largest combined number of Premier League, Football League or Southern League games for Watford (prior to this Saturday’s game with Blackpool).  If there is still a tie, the earlier entrant wins.
  • Please enter player names in the format  J.Barnes .
  • Loans at Watford or at other club are fine, as long as the players concerned featured in at least one competitive game for each.

Entries close on  Thursday November 29th.

Note that Saville Rogue are only able to dispatch the prize to a UK address.

Entries will not be published until the closing date.

That is all.

PREMIER LEAGUE

Arsenal

Villa

Chelsea

Everton

Fulham

Liverpool

ManCity

ManU

Newcastle

Norwich

QPR

Reading

Southampton

Stoke

Sunderland

Swansea

Tottenham

WBA

Wigan

WestHam

CHAMPIONSHIP

Barnsley

Birmingham

Blackburn

Blackpool

Bolton

Brighton

BristolC

Burnley

Cardiff

Charlton

Palace

Derby

Huddersfield

Hull

Ipswich

Leeds

Leicester

Middlesbrough

Millwall

NForest

Peterborough

SheffWed

Wolves

Competition: Win a Savile Rogue cashmere football scarf in Watford colours 02/12/2011

Posted by Matt Rowson in Nonsense.
19 comments

Savile Rogue have very kindly offered BHaPPY readers the chance to win one of the world’s finest cashmere football scarves in Watford colours.

Savile Rogue scarves (it says here…) give a nod to football terraces of yesteryear, shunning in-your-face logos and cheap nylon in favour of a traditional bar design and the comfort, quality and warmth of top grade wool.

A bit nifty, in other words. To get your hands on a Watford scarf, here’s the question….

In the thirteen years in which we’ve had squad numbers, sixteen players have been awarded the 32 shirt (note not all of them actually wore it in action…).

How many of them can you name?

The largest number of correct guesses by the evening of Thursday December 8th wins the scarf.  Only the last sixteen names you nominate will be considered;  in the event of a tie, the fastest response wins.

Note that Saville Rogue are only dispatch the prize to a UK address.

Enter by replying to this message.  Entries will not be published until the closing date.

That is all.

It’s always lovely to hear from old friends…. 04/06/2010

Posted by Ian Grant in Nonsense.
23 comments

Dear Sirs,

We write on behalf of the Football DataCo Limited.

Football DataCo Limited has been appointed by the Football Association Premier League, the Football League, the Scottish Premier League and the Scottish Football League (collectively “the Leagues”) to license certain intellectual property rights owned by the Leagues to third parties, including those in the Fixture Lists for this forthcoming 2010/11 season (“the Fixture Lists”).

Should you intend to display or otherwise use the Fixture Lists on your website http://www.bsad.org/0506/reports/fixtures.html it will be necessary for you to obtain the appropriate licence from Football DataCo Limited prior to any such display or use. Football DataCo Limited can be contacted at [removed].

We would also take this opportunity to remind you that the display or use of other materials owned or controlled by the Leagues (including, but not limited to photographs and logos) may require a separate additional licence which can also be obtained via Football DataCo Limited.

Football DataCo Limited vigorously polices and protects the Leagues’ commercial rights, including the Leagues intellectual property rights in the fixture lists. On behalf of Football DataCo Limited, NetResult will be regularly monitoring web sites to ensure that the Leagues’ intellectual property rights are not infringed.

Please contact us if you have any questions or comments quoting the above DataCo_NRID Reference in all correspondence.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Yours faithfully,

[removed]

NetResult
A Division of Projector NetResult Ltd
Broadway House,
2-6 Fulham Broadway,
London,
SW6 1AA

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Dear Mr [removed],

Although it seems extraordinary that we should have to do so, it appears that we must, with weary hearts, reply to your message in order to establish some simple facts. This would be unnecessary were your company in the habit of undertaking even the most basic research before sending out threatening emails to websites which seek to publicise the game for no financial gain. Clearly, however, NetResult continues to see itself as above such mundanities as courtesy, accuracy and common sense.

Anyway, you’ve rudely wasted our time, so kindly permit us to return the compliment…

Firstly, and most importantly, the site that you’ve decided to “regularly monitor” is no longer being updated. Had you taken the trouble to look further than the one page that seems to have attracted your attention, you would have noticed that there have been no updates to the site since as long ago as 2006; the address that you cite quite clearly lists the Watford FC fixtures for the 2005/06 season rather than anything more recent. As far as we are aware, neither NetResult nor Football DataCo Limited make any claim to copyright over past events, nor have any legal basis for preventing absolutely anyone from displaying such information; we eagerly look forward to any attempt to claim ownership of universally-available historical facts with great amusement.

Secondly, if your company bothered to keep records of past correspondence, you would be aware of an extensive and somewhat heated exchange between ourselves and both NetResult and Football DataCo Limited in 2005. That correspondence remains online at http://www.bsad.org/0506/reports/fixtures_letter.html should you wish to read it; our case was covered by, among others, When Saturday Comes, the Independent and Radio 5.

While aware that we were powerless to do anything but comply with your threats, we did suggest that you might consider revising the shoddy, impersonal and inaccurate message sent to websites that have been unfortunate enough to come to your attention: “If you are unaware of the impression that such an email leaves,” we wrote, “then we would respectfully suggest that you re-write it before using it to deal with another website.” Evidently, that suggestion fell on deaf ears; your message confirms that NetResult operates exactly as before, without a hint of respect for the vast amounts of time, effort and good old-fashioned love that are ploughed into fan-driven websites.

Our website ceased to be updated in 2006. We would be exaggerating if we claimed that being bullied by NetResult was the crucial factor in that decision; nevertheless, it was a stark, shocking reminder of how little the football authorities (and their henchmen) care or understand about what motivates football fans to produce a fanzine like ours. Nothing has changed, evidently.

We’ll expect to hear from you again in five years’ time, when another idle search on Google causes a NetResult employee to stumble across our site and fire off a crudely-templated email without further ado. We continue to hope, however, that common sense might prevail, rendering your company’s parasitical relationship with the beautiful game as much of a historical curiosity as the fixture list that’s come to your notice.

As before, we reserve the right to publish this correspondence.

Yours,

Ian Grant and Matt Rowson
http://www.bsad.org

Help to keep BSaD online! 03/01/2008

Posted by Ian Grant in Nonsense.
11 comments

When we finally packed it in, we promised ourselves and everyone else that we’d keep BSaD online for ever and always, as an archive of ten-and-more years of Watford-related stuff. Thing is, that costs us money. So, if you’d care to donate to our running costs, we’d be enormously grateful. You can do it here. Much obliged. You’re lovely.